Chat in English (英語で雑談) part 213
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Hey!!! All you NEETs, nerds, YouTube link spammers, pedophiles, neo-Nazis,
Yukorin enthusiasts, Nanako SOS admirers, Part-Time-Preachers,
Diplomats' spoiled sons, losers who can't remember Kanji characters,
Big-boobs fans, Weeaboo from around the world, learners of Japanese
who are too lazy to update their Japanese blogs very often, cunning
linguists, stupid fan girls of Johnny's Boys, Touhou pirates, and
that electrical super-gay who suffers from mental disease - This is your thread!
Let's hope the Internet-addicted housewife will come back soon!
We all wish for permanent world peace!
Sistersite:https://chat-in-english.memo.wiki/
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Many people try to improve colloquial conversation fluency, it is preposterous thing.
Set down the venerable burden and let your insufficient time use reading.
speaking is usufull when you want to show off your English skills
thank you for setting up the new thread.
i hope i can continue to work out.
Are you trying to be a ゴリマッチョ?
n...no.
i'm trying to be more 細マッチョ than ゴリマッチョ.
you have to buy new clothing if you become ゴリマッチョ
as your physical appearnce largely changes.
i don't hope for that.
fitness is the only thing i want to achieve for the time being.
It’s a privilege to wear tanktops because you can’t wear them with skinny arms you know
How miserable they look! If you wanna rock those shirts, you’d better work
so tank tops are not my choice, half-sleeved shirts are enough.
i am not sure if there is some scientific study to show that it is definitely true.
i want to know how much sugar you should take a day.
to abuse a japanese child is to abuse a child of 天皇陛下。
You are right at some point. But people here already have speaking ability.
Just gonna copypaste what I wrote, with some edits.
俺はカナダ人です、よろしく
日本語が下手下手です、それでも何でも聞いて
google翻訳を使うからわかりにくいと思うけど、ネイティブが答えるから。
As for me, I want to know why you're interested in English. To learn the lingua franka of the world? To impress your girlfriend? Cause you have nothing better to do?
Let me know! Doesn't matter if your replies are in English or Japanese because I'll just throw it into google translate if I can't read it.
Preferably English since this is an English convo thread.
And you're a dick.
Who cares if I'm white?
...detrimental to who, might I ask?
I'm just in this thread to chat and answer potential questions you might have for a Canadian, like do we have polar bears as pets, etc.
>>41
(Phone posting cause I needed to get out of the house)
I have German heritage. I actually love korean and asian food in general and have a few korean and chinese friends, but the real issue here in Canada is the fucking chinese and the CPP's influence on the chinese communities in Canada.
While westernized chinese people aren't the big issue, misinformation spread by mainland China to mandarin speakers is just screwing up the concept of the melting pot.
We even had protests in Vancouver in favor of the CPP because of the Hong Kong situation.
Also, just wondering if you just default to sage on the board? Don't wanna be too annoying.
Hi. I learn English because I want to watche English videos without subtitle.
Cool! What kind of videos do you want to watch? North american dramas? Cartoons? Youtube videos?
I'm wanting to learn Japanese because when I graduate from university I wanna visit Japan for 3 weeks.
Thought I should add my two cents to this.
Sugar activates the same receptors in the brain that cocain and heroin do.
We evolved as a species to seek out sugar because that's energy. Berries, fruit, etc. all have sugar.
Only reason why pure sugar is still legal is because there's money to be made.
High fructose corn syrup is also sugar, but is metabolized differently then cane/beat sugar. It's probably the main reason why americans are getting as fat as they are.
We're all sugar addicts. Such is the current plight of humanity.
YouTube videos. I watch travel videos. I can see beautiful city and beach in the world. I also watch restaurants reviews.
Which food reviewers do you watch?
The meme that is Guy Fieri? Or someone a bit more ameture?
I type words as best pancakes, hamburger, coffee into search box. I don't have any specific youtuber I watch regularly.
Why are you interested in Japan? Are you anime fan? Is that your first time to go abroad?
I visited the US twice and Germany 3 times throughout the last decade.
Visiting Japan would be the first time going somewhere in the world alone for me.
I'm somewhat of a weeb--been doing some Gunpla and finished a Zaku II--but the language, culture, and landscapes interest me too.
Shinto temples, Mt.Fuji, various cities with it's huge metropolitan landscape, and the countrysides in between.
I'm not full-on crazy like some foreigners are, but it'd be a nice change in destination for a vacation.
If you like chatting about food and don't mind using imageboards, 4chan has a food&cooking board if you want to use that to
improve your English. The memes and colloquial might be a bit jarring at first, but I think I had that same situation with browsing 2channel.
Many non native English speakers use 4channel. But their English seem almost perfect. I'll try I got much better.
I live in Tokyo. I like Koube and Hokkaido in Japan. It's beautiful as Japan.
Sounds like fluffy.
>>55
Sounds like winter (^_^;
I like 鍋 too. I put udon into 鍋.
Wouldn't adding udon to it just make it fancy ramen...?
I'm still curious why people add sage to these threads and not have your comments bump the thread.
Is it to be more polite to more active threads?
I agree. 10years ago people blame people who not to use ＊sage. In Japan, too aggressive people aren't accepted. So I use ＊sage unconsciously due to old habit.
>>58
me too.
I have barikan.
I don’t go for “hage” style. Thanks anyway.
by strong wind of the typhoon no.15 during the night.
it was like a big hole was dug through the wall
and small animals would have been able to come through it into the house.
i don't think that neet is a job title but that it is a status...
Does your airconditioner work?
because it's easier and faster for me to type only lower case letters.
if it doesn't make sense, i will instantly switch to using upper case letters.
i haven't checked it yet.
i think it's ok, but it may make strange noises when it's turned on.
As a result of the operatives continuing to distort information,
the English board lost its trust and was depopulated.
It is now a waste board.
There is no writing other than the operatives' faked stories.
They operatives look so miserable.
Do schools teach computer typing in Japan? I was taught it in elementary school, and even with capitalization I have a 70 WPM typing speed.
>>71
Kek, are you that much of a conspiracy theorist?
...although now I said kek, now you think I'm a fucking korean spy. In the west it's more of a different version of lol.
I haven't seen you for a while. Have you had long vacation? Where did you visit?
20 year old me: I want to find a well-paying job where I can help people If possible.
30 year old me : I want to die in a fire rn.
I don't know how to laugh your idea.
So sorry.
(´･ω･) Yes, sir sir.
...it's "Sir, yes sir."
Unless you're just meming.
Another question I want to ask this thread is the reason you might hate an ethnic group. Whites? Koreans? Dominican republicans?
I'm not a racist. (* ・ω・*)ノ
That's great. Still I can sense quite the hostility towards Koreans in particular.
>>83
Ya know who also said that? The fucking Nazis. Don't aspire to be a Nazi.
Full Metal Jacket has quite a good scene pertaining to this.
https://youtu.be/tHxf17yJsKs?t=47
>>85
Agreed.
There's a time and place for politics. This isn't one of those.
Anyone who disagrees can move over to 4chan's /pol/ board. They'll like you there.
(or reply to international calls at office)
it must be really nice to talk with foreigners in english.
this is a question i've been trying to answer for a long time.
a mouth or nose? or it represents both of them at the same time?
you can't find an answer by googling it...that's too bad.
I would think that it'd be both. Kamojis are weird, but cute.
some says it is actually a nose. but who cares? a lot of people on the internet use Kaomojis with that character believing it's nose, including me. w
https://youtu.be/6X5F7jhQZd8
I know it’s a sin to be super hot like me.
That's an easy answer.
Humanity evolved to adapt to their climates. Everything from skin color to nether regions.
A higher surface area allows you to cool down faster as you sweat. Bigger dong, higher surface area.
Europeans had to deal with long, cold winters. Because of that, less surface area is desirable.
If that’s the case then, what about Asians?
it cast bright green lights and the lights were turning around.
obviously the cars were not ambulances or fire trucks.
what are they??
a little girl walked toward me alone.
she seemed only 7-8 years old and it's almost 10p.m.
i couldn't help but frown at her,
and also wondered where the hell her parents were at that time.
Everytime I go to a local mall centre after work like at 9pm, I see some young-ish parents with a little kid like 3 or 4 years age.
This is pretty the norm in Japan now. You need to adjust to it.
Depending on location in relation to the equator, your ancestors would have gone through evolution gaining different traits.
With asians, narrow eyes and similar physiology to europeans were the favorable trait.
>>99
We have something similar in Canada for my area. These are SUVs used to suppliment ambulances and fire rescue.
Then again you said they wern't emergency services so I have no idea.
But I ended up going to Australia instead. Life is unpredictable.
Sadly not. It's only required to learn french from grades 1 through 6. After that, it becomes optional.
Doesn't matter. Since grade 1, I was learning German in a bilingual school system my area has.
I dropped out of German in grade 12 though because I'd have to take the C level Sprachdiplom (German equivalent to N1 JLPT).
I really didn't care about having that certification since it's only useful for interpretation jobs and working/studying in Germany if you aren't a citizen.
However since I am both Canadian and German, no Sprachdiplom required.
If you don't know french, working as a public servant is close to impossible due to preferential treatment of francophones and those who speak french.
>>104
Exchange programs are amazing and fun to do. I did one in grade 8 for a trip to Germany.
Australia is a good choice too.
Their accent and slang might be difficult for ESL students to understand though.
How was your experience in Australia?
if those cars were used for emergency purposes (to suppliment ambulances and fire rescue)
they should make loud warning sounds with sirens or ask for other car's cooperation through loudspeakers or microphones.
>>101
i think those young ish parents must take better care of their children.
the children will have a difficulty breaking the bad habit when they begin to go to school.
when iphone x models were launched a few years ago,
they emailed me the pictures of them (or sent messages with pics through line app).
i wonder how many people will do the same thing with iphone 11 in 2020.
Yup. People are pretty absorbed by their expensive toys.
I did get a flagship phone (LG V30) but I only upgrade every 3 or 4 years.
I can't understand it.
a british guy i met before called garakee "dumb phone".
It seems so cool to be a bilingual. I know so many people in Canada are bilingual like English and French.
I have never wanted to study French because the pronunciation is so difficult for Japanese speakers, me thinks.
The only thing I hated about Australia is that I couldn’t use water as much as I can. I use tons of water here in Japan.
Being Bilingual is pretty nice. I have German TV streaming so I sometimes watch german dubbed cartoons and programming. They even have dubbed anime.
Watched a couple early episodes of Bleach but the dub was a bit unbareable. When it comes to Anime I usually watch subbed content 9 times out of 10.
French pronounciation isn't much of an issue for English speakers, but the written form is absolutely horrendous.
Coupled with Japanese's limited phonetics and grammar, I can only imagine the nightmare Japanese people have when learning French.
I've heard that Spanish is easier for Japanese people to learn. Is that true?
...why is that though?
If he was just looking for a rice bunny to pump and dump then I could understand.
Blocking him right when he started messaging you kinda defeats the purpose of dating apps altogether.
Yes. Spanish is so much easier for Japanese when it comes to pronunciation. Gramatically speaking, Korean is the easiest language for Japanese, but no interest.
I wish I could speak Mandarin. But no time, no motivation, no money to learn the language from scratch.
Spanish and Germany sound similar to Japanese.
Did you block because he was hentai?
>>118
Youtubers give you free lessons.
so i need to prepare for it.
as per the job description, this position requires a basic level of english-speaking skill.
i am wondering if the part of the interview is done in english to evaluate how i can speak english...?
It might.
As long as your pronounciation isn't total shit and you can get your message across, that should meet the definition of basic English in Japan imo.
Good luck with the interview, hope it goes well.
If you really wanna practice, maybe look for some pronounciation practice videos on YouTube or something similar. Rosetta stone maybe?
Don’t think serious too much. The important thing is the passion to telling to the interviewer how you feel and consider about a certain topic. Just fake it till you make it!
I'm against it but if you wanna look like a walking Ken doll you do you.
You have no idea. I wish I were white so that I don’t have to go through every hardships I encounter as an Asian.
Not trying to sound mean, but what hardships?
You're in a first-world country that is one of the powerhouse economies.
Just trying to understand your perspective.
If you are white and speak English, you are basically invincible.
Japan is not a wealthy country anymore. People are struggling a lot. Everything is getting expensive, taxes are getting higher, incomes are getting lower etc etc
I’m pretty sure Japan is a second-world country.
>>124
thank you.
>>131
and existing taxes continue to be increased.
plus, the government may introduce a new tax.
Sales tax increase because government actually want to get increase politician's salary not for lack of pension money.
But our income is the same. So we have to save or not buy anything we don't really need. Then company can't get money from us. Then our salary don't get increase. So Japanese economy will never be better.
If I want to get out of rat race, I have to not waist my money at least. I don't count on our government. I will save my life by myself.
That makes Abenomics fail.
the bet. if it is the kind of trade of future of for example wheat, as long as it’s trade is done through japanese companies all you have to lose is the money you put in advance before you begin the bet. but, in fx, the circumstance differs from it.
and, for trades, large leverage is used, so, so small amount of the price changes may bring you huge amount of losses. i recommend you not to bother with the fox.
Thank you for your advice.
Seems like you’re smart smart. I wish I had some friends like you so that I can make tons of money.
I’m not complaining because they are good, legit hard workers unlike white gaijins.
Eh, some people are going to be like that.
The same can be said of some japanese people.
Work ethic isn't always predetermined by race.
But here in North America and other english speaking countries, teaching English in Japan is marketed as something that anyone with a bachelors degree can do.
I've even considered it myself.
How about teaching English on Youtube until you come to Japan?
He graduated from the state university... lol
State universities aren't all that bad. Coming from one doesn't mean you're as dumb as a rock.
Sometimes you can't really afford the creme dela creme in terms of university.
Someone who don't speak English that much run English school. And he become rich than English teachers.
Yikes.
Now that I think about it, having just the Japanese vowels and consonants in your repertoire of sounds would make speaking English a nightmare.
How long did it take for you to be able to speak English? Is how you speak close to how a native speaker would talk?
It took 10years. I practiced pronunciation little by little. I learned phrases from the magazine for American teenage girls.
Canadian universities also are expensive like American ones?
My friend went to this university in Californial and said the tuition fee is $55,000 a year plus dorm fee, etc etc
It depends on the school, program, etc.
I pay $5000 CAD a year for 2 semesters' tuition for my program. This is for a 2 year diploma program where it counts as two years towards a bachelors degree.
As a foreign student, your tuition is increased to subsedise Canadians with their lower tuition.
State universities and other institutions will have different costs.
Some universities might give you financial assistance depending on socioeconomic status though.
The situation is similar in Canada compared to the US, but there are a multitude of differences between the two to take into consideration.
Do you invest on something or own your company?
I have never met any non-native speakers who have no trouble speaking it correctly no matter how many years they live in Japan.
It seems almost impossible to master it without having native parents.
Obviously intonation would be a difficult part of Japanese. It's hard for any language.
But the limited phonetics make it somewhat easy for non-japanese people to learn the language, at least from my perspective.
If someone immerses themselves in the media of a given language, the intonation would be easy to pick up over time.
I won't argue with that.
Writing Kanji for me is pretty much the bain of my existance.
I'd think I'm the only whitie here, dude.
It's 2chan. Not too many North Americans/Europeans browsing.
Schools should do away with English classes. Or English should be selective or something. Def not a mandatory subject!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are few people. They said I'm American.
Basic English skills are needed for programming, large corporations with foreign HQs, shitposting on 2chan's english board, etc.
If you don't use it on a semi-daily basis, great. I'm happy for you. But English skills are king in Japan for major corporations, and just in general.
>>162
...well? Are you?
I just can't tell. It's nice that whatever I put into the namefield is displayed here.
On quite a few boards on 4chan, you need a browser extention to just see whatever someone puts into the namefield if they don't tripfag.
They live in Japan. You can read old thread if you have time. This thread is number 213.
Though you are writing major companies in this country requires employees to
acquire English skills, employees almost don't need it for their business, but only for their promotion where their company impose it as a condition to be promoted,
to get good scores in TOEIC. Worthless efforts is it, don't you think so?
My English qualifications are wastes after all.
×unless
let's watch some lecture videos on youtube
where teachers talk about topics you're not interested in at all.
it would successfully make you sleepy and fall asleep.
if you work for a 7-eleven store located in a japanese famous sightseeing spot,
your english skill may help you very much.
I’ve never been to Americas but I clearly recognize L and R sound.
Great.
i wonder why.
L and R don't even sound that similar to me. The way I think it, L(el) and R(arr) have slightly different tounge forms for making the sound.
L makes my tounge curl slightly to the tip of the roof of my mouth with the tip of my tounge.
R on the other hand has my tongue curl to the back of my mouth with the underside of my tounge touching the middle roof of my mouth.
Don't know if that makes any sense, but the sound difference is there.
The more you study, the more you realize your limitation.
I can pronounce them. But listening is difficult. By the way I heard native speaker children don't know difference between TH and F sound. Is that true?
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Those two words are written by voice typing. I know how to pronounce it because of a good teacher called Summer on YouTube.
It's relatively easy to pronounce them compared to the difficulties hearing the differences between them.
Once I saw a article on BBC that says when you are a baby you can distinguish all sounds but when you grow up you will lose the ability because it is no longer necessary to discern them in your native language.
once said "mastering one foreign language is like conquering one country.".
is it?
That's right. I lost that ability because I'm already adult.
That was mind-boggling. I always pronounce を like うぉ.
i heard that 江戸っ子 has a difficulty pronouncing japanese "Shi".
"Hi" seems to come out of his/her mouth instead...
i don't know the reason for this.
after unintentionally?? trespassing someone's garden or backyard.
the owner shouted at him "freeze!" but he was said to take it as "please!" and go further against the owner's will.
i am not sure if this story was true or not.
That was Halloween day. If he had much English ability...
From what I can gather, お is the correct pronounciation for を. In romaji, it's typed out as "wo".
Don't know how you got うお, but than again I'm just an idiot 外人.
on their speech. The difference is only when they are written.
In my area, people pronounce を as うぉ.
I have the same stance with Mastuko
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz6cUAlW0dc
Watch it at around 10:00-
Which actor does he look like?
Which race do you recommend?
I don’t know. But he looks like one of those hot fitness models on Instagram.
what made me so surprised is how skinny her legs were.
they looked like two old branches of a tree.
i wondered how they hold her body as she got off and walked away swiftly.
i wanted to tell her to eat a lot more at least until she comes of age.
Are you gay?
Does it matter?
I was just confused
Skymark are going to fly from Narita to Saipan. I'm happy. Btw I heard American people in mainland don't know Saipan.
And Australians don't know either. I saw the map. I found lots of islands I didn't know yet.
and eating tomatoes may promote you going bald.
i like tomatoes and this is obviously a shocking news.
...then go to IKEA.
I don't know if the Japanese locations are similar to the Canadian ones, but their meatballs are alright, along with their soft serve. Although it's not as good as McDonalds soft serve.
no, i keep plenty of hair on my head...presumably thanks to my family dna.
There are only 8 IKEA stores in Japan. It takes me about 2 hours to get there from my house. I also have to take the express way which costs me about 100 dollars.
It’s not like “Let’s go watch a movie!”
Do you go to IKEA for buying furniture?
I want some small stuff and a chair. I already got big furniture several months ago.
They gave me ＊would you buy water? we got a lot!＊e-mail so often. I was hurt.
the lipovitan D lineup.
i quickly picked up a bottle and bought it.
it's interesting that "D" is not english but german.
Weird. I live about half an hour by car, so it's more a "something we can do anytime" kinda thing.
How much would it cost if you drove on your highway? I heard toll booths are insanely expensive in Japan.
isn't Amazon good enough for you?
By the way is it possible to buy something from Amazon USA?
you can buy what you want on amazon usa website.
the title "uncolle" is a combination of two words,
"unko (japanese word for poop)" and "collection".
the japan poop society has participated in the project
to increase people's awareness of unko and unko-related health.
I am feeling totally exausted because right now, because I had to put an extreme strain on my brain during the entire session, recollecting appropriate words and senstences…
That is really good. If you keep doing that everyday, you will get used to it and be fluent in the not too distant future.
I really hope so. The problem is my trial period has expired and I now have to pay billion bucks.
(But probably well worth the price considering the effect!)
Maybe you should try cheap ones. Like I used to be a member of DMM eikaiwa or something. The fee was like 4,000 yen or so.
I think I should, as the one I tried was actually DMM and they currently charge around ¥6500 at the cheapest (i.e. 1 session/day). Thank you for your advice!
Jeez. It’s so expensive now...
I should stick to doing “1人英会話” then...
Thank you for your information.
>>231
You seem to be already fluent.
>>232
Your English (at least in written form) sounds quite good and natural. You are definitely on the right track. Keep it up!
If you don't mind me asking, how have you been studying English?
I'm a native English speaker who's studying Japanese, and my main philosophy when it comes to studying is "input before output".
That is, I try to immerse myself (in other words, "get input") in natural Japanese as much as possible, so that I actually understand the language before trying to speak (in other words, "output") by myself.
I'm wondering if you are using a similar approach for your English, especially since you said it was your first English lession.
If so, then it seems to be working for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrHwPv7gUCE
Would you say that this guy's Japanese is good? Be honest.
I ask because I'm mainly following this guy's advice for how to learn languages.
He sounds quite good to me, but I'm not a Japanese native, so I don't feel like I can really accurately judge for myself.
He is very good.
Marsha Krakower speaks perfect Japanese.
Thank you for the response.
I hadn't heard of Marsha Krakower before.
It seems like she was born in Japan, so she's probably been getting Japanese input all her life, and is basically a native.
Thane Camus's Japanese is also perfect from what I hear, but he's been living in Japan since he was like 6, so he's also gotten tons of input and practice.
I bet his Japanese is probably even better than his English by now.
I think Matt (from the video I linked) is pretty impressive because he learned Japanese without leaving the United States,
so he didn't get the advantage of getting to live in Japan and being surrounded by the language all the time.
He had to build a "Japanese-only" environment all on his own, mainly through the internet.
I'm trying to replicate his approach since I have no plans to actually ever go to Japan, but I would like to know the language.
I think, with all the materials available on the internet to read and listen to, we could all become fluent in our target languages by simply immersing ourselves in it all the time!
I didn't know she was born in Japan. How about Peter Barakan？
Matt Japanese isn't perfect. But it's incredible to get that ability without living in Japan.
You are correct.
I think one reason for this is that almost no Japanese students are aware that pitch accent (高低アクセント) is a thing that even exists, or if they do, they don't think it's important.
The canonical examples are how 箸が, 端が, and 橋が all have different pitch accent when spoken. Or 雨 and 飴.
For most students of Japanese, their study of pitch accent stops at these two examples.
But it's not just these words; really, EVERY word in Japanese has its own pitch accent, just like how every word in English has its own stress on certain syllables.
However, because you don't "need" correct pitch accent to simply be *understood*, most Japanese language students think that Japanese pronunciation is easy,
even though their intonation sounds unnatural as fuck, and they're constantly getting pitch accent wrong.
It's not like Chinese where bad pronunciation will keep you from being understood.
But people who say "Japanese is easy" seriously underestimate how hard it is to reach a native level at speaking the language.
I've already accepted that I will probably never get to a "native level", but I would still be happy just being "very good".
Peter Barakan seems to have been born and raised in England, so if his Japanese is really perfect, then that's certainly impressive.
I wonder why some people are able to able to learn foreign languages to perfection, while others never reach that point, even after immersing themselves in the language for decades.
Does it come down to their studying habits, or just some sort of natural abilities?
At any rate, in English we have a common saying: "Don't let perfect be the enemy of good".
In other words, it's better to keep trying and to become very good at something, than to give up because you feel like you will never be perfect.
You don't need to be perfect. I can't speak English that much. But I'm interested in perfect speaking person. I mean I want to know how they learned foreign language.
Yeah, same. I'm also very interested in their methods.
Those guys like Peter Barakan could probably make tons of money if they marketed their language learning methods to the masses.
But they seem less interested in that, and more interested in just living their lives.
Maybe they just don't want us to know their secret...
I'm not trying to downplay their effort and of course practice and immersion are the most important but I think some people are just naturally good at languages.
There are people who are good at context reading, pronouncing clearly, giving a speech, writing a novel and then there ard some who are not.
Even natives have varying levels of abilities at their language like that so it's only natural that the same applies to language learners.
Yeah, I have no doubt that some people are just naturally better at learning at a certain rate than others.
And of course, if you're a natural mimic, then pronunciation and such are going to come easier to you.
After all, language is mostly mimicry and natural mimics have a huge advantage when it comes to that.
I'm still interested in the overall process and theory behind language learning, though.
Take Matt, for example. He's not perfect at Japanese,
but he's only been speaking the language for a fraction of the time that Peter Barakan has.
I wonder, if Matt keeps up with his immersion-based approach to language learning,
if he will ever reach perfection,
or if he will just plateau at "almost, but not quite perfect" like so many other learners do.
Even among people who live in countries where their target language is predominately spoken,
many of them just craft "gaijin bubbles" for themselves where they're not actually
immersing themselves as much as you think they would be.
So while being a natural at 物真似 plays a role,
I'm sure, I wonder how much if it comes down to 才能 and how much of it comes down to just the method.
Another thing I'm interested in, is how long did it take people like Peter Barakan to become perfect?
Surely they weren't just speaking flawlessly from day one.
But there's so little documentation on the subject.
It's like, should you take it as, "if you've been studying for x years and you're still not perfect by then, you'll never be perfect"?
If it took him 2 years to reach perfection then I'd surely believe he's a genius.
Nobody who's not FUCKING EXCEPTIONAL learns perfect Japanese in 2 years.
But if it took him 20 years, then I have to wonder if it's something environmental rather than genetic still.
Not that I think it matters THAT much, whether you have a subtle accent or not.
I'm sure that everyone would agree that Dave Spector speaks excellent Japanese even if he has a foreign accent and such.
But I would still accept that Peter Barakan has something over him, either environmental OR genetic,
if he was able to reach total perfection in the same amount of time.
If you've listened to Thane Camus speak English for an extended period of time, you will realize that, while he's still pretty good at it,
there's just something "off" about the way he speaks English that just shows that he's just way more comfortable with Japanese on the inside than English.
Like, his English really is the kind of English you would expect from someone who moved to Japan when they were 6 or 10 years old, rather than the English of someone
who stayed in an English-speaking country until adulthood.
If you're an English native then just listen to the clips of him reading English on his new Mr. Coconut channel on YouTube and you'll see what I mean.
It's only natural that, after 40 years of living in Japan, he's forgotten the natural rhythm and cadence of the language he spoke as a 6 year old.
And though he may be white and his Japanese is perfect, his English certainly is not.
I think that Japanese and English are just such different languages, that there's almost nobody alive who's capable of maintaining both to a truly "native" level without prioritizing one over the other,
if you know what I mean.
But that doesn't mean you can't be very good at both still.
Thank you, I feel relieved to hear that my English sounds natural to you.
I have been learning in a way surprisingly similar to yours, except that I had no clear intention to do that, so to speak.
My first exposure to English was 12 years ago when I entered my junior high.
I have since immersed myself in my favorite movies, magazines, etc. in the language. I could say I was also an avid learner of the grammar at school.
However, I was, or I have been, too lazy and shy to find opportunity to have real conversations.
(cont. >> 253)
As a result, I have a fairly rich vocabulary pool in my head but most of the words and phrases in it remain “passive”.
The reason I sound not too awkward in written form is that there is virtually no time limit to review and rewrite it, often with the aid of dictionaries, so they sound more natural.
I can tell whether a sentence is natural or not “in hindsight”. I just cannot form it on the spot.
The funny thing is that I know what “obsequious” and “flabbergasted” mean but in the online lesson I find myself struggling to switch tenses, and there is always a long and awkward pause before I can finally output a grammatically decent sentence.
That's interesting to hear.
I've also been taking an approach of just trying to understand everything Japanese.
My main goal with Japanese was just understanding rather than outputting.
I have to say, that tonight is the only night I've ever really talked to Japanese people.
And even now, it's mostly in English rather than Japanese.
But I spend 6+ hours every day, just trying to read and understand real Japanese,
which is spoken/written by real Japanese people. In doing so, I've come to understand almost all of the Japanese that I see and hear on a daily basis,
which was my goal in the first place.
However, after doing so, I find myself wanting to be able to speak/write Japanese in the same way that I understand it. So I have to keep going and pushing myself.
>However, I was, or I have been, too lazy and shy to find opportunity to have real conversations.
This is my problem as well, I think. I think I could speak or write Japanese if I tried, but I'm just too shy to.
Anyway, just 頑張ってくださいね。 I'm sure we'll both get there eventually.
Yeah, I think I'm at the same stage in Japanese as you are in English.
That is, I can write somewhat natural Japanese and I can see what's right "in hindsight",
but 実際に喋ること is still too "real-time" for me.
I've heard of this technique called "shadowing", where you basically just repeat, in real-time,
what a native speaker says. And in doing so, you're supposed to become more fluent and "quick at thinking on your feet"
when it comes to your target language.
But I haven't tried it yet, because I feel like I should be focused on bringing my listening comprehension up to truly 100% first,
rather than the 97% or so that it's at right now.
>The funny thing is that I know what “obsequious” and “flabbergasted” mean
I will say that, as a native speaker, I don't even know what “obsequious” means. But as a Japanese learner I can read 髑髏 and write 薔薇 even though I know that even a few native Japanese can't.
I think that one thing that separates a native from a learner, is that a native just has this intuitive sense of what's important to know and what's not. Whereas a foreign learner can't intuitively tell whether “obsequious” is worth learning or not.
Thane Camus and Dave spector are excellent. But they both learned from they were children. Children learn language faster than adults.
I checked out how Peter Barakan learned Japanese. He learned Japanese at the college maybe 4years. But he couldn't speak Japanese when he graduated.
After he came to Japan, He learned from TV drama and conversation.
Interesting. I've heard that Dave Spector has an obvious foreign accent, whereas Thane Camus sounds like a native speaker. Am I wrong?
I am trying to learn from TV drama, anime, and YouTube. And after 3 years, I can read and understand almost all of it. But I can't speak yet.
I think mostly I am just too embarrassed to try.
But since my original goal was just "understanding" rather than "speaking", I am very happy. I will try to keep it up and hope that I can reach Peter Barkan's level someday.
After all, he's been living in Japan for at least 20 years before I was even born, so I think I should give myself that sort of time to catch up (*´∀｀*)
Thane Camus's accent is better than Peter Barakan.
I think shadowing is very good for listening. Repeating is good for speaking.
Yes, I agree as well. We should all try shadowing and see if we ultimately improve at speaking our target language.
You will be able to be like him (*'▽'*)
Why did you choose Japanese?
Also I'm not sure if I misunderstood you,
but I feel that shadowing and repeating are almost the same,
the only difference is whether you repeat in "real-time" vs. whether you repeat "afterwards".
I think both probably have the same benefits.
I will try doing a combination of both from now on and seeing which one seems to work the best for me.
Time for me to go to bed.
Everyone "ganbatte ne" and hopefully we'll all be fluent soon enough.
Well, I just think Japanese looks cooler than any other language I've ever seen in the world.
The way you guys mix ひらがな、カタカナ、漢字 I think it's very 賢い and I wish we had that in our language too.
I think you guys make the best media - yeah, the アニメ, ドラマ, エロ漫画, all of it.
I took one look at Japanese and I thought, "this must be the hardest language on earth. I HAVE to learn this."
I'm just a チャレンジ好き kind of guy, you know.
I've never regretted a single second of learning this language. I love it all.
Thank you for the encouragement.
Good night.
See you later.(*・ω・*)ノ
I didn't explain it well. I repeat just one phrase. I repeat the same phrase over and over. After that I totally memorize that phrase's pronunciation accent and intonation.
It’s interesting for me as well to know we are in such a similiar situation and I wasn’t the only one.
I haven’t tried the shadowing method yet, but from your explanation I think it’s worth giving a try because it sounds like exactly what I need.
I really hope you make a successful switch to the “activation phase” of the Japanese language like I desire to of English, and we both someday be fluent both in speaking and writing.
It was fun having a conversation with you. Have a good night!
(*・ω・*)ノ
Like how she thought "first of all" was just one word until much later.
She also talked about some interesting stuff like how those Japanese children she taught English could speak the language without an accent until the age 6 or something
and their pronunciation would only get worse after they learned the alphabet in school.
It's a shockingly huge spider. lol
She must be around 80 years old, but she has avant-garde aesthetics!!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/luxury/jewellery/lady-hales-brooches-surprisingly-trend/
Whoa, that is pretty cool.
I didn't even know what a 'brooch' was until now, lmao.
Oh! One thing that you guys might want to try is watch English-language "Let's Play" videos on YouTube.
One of my favorite things to do in Japanese is watch 実況プレイ vids, since not only is the content fun and interesting, but the commentary is useful listening practice.
On top of that -- and this is where I think Let's Play videos shine in terms of their usefulness -- the players will often read out all the in-game dialogue out loud,
so you can practice reading along with native audio.
My favorite Japanese Let's Player is 実況局だいだら. He talks a lot, and he reads everything out loud.
Even compared to other Japanese Let's Players, I think he speaks and reads very well.
It makes me realize that I need to learn to read way faster if I ever want to keep up with people like him, haha.
Cheer up, man. Just take a look at your ID!
ID: fCjbckgS0
-> fC ck jbgs0 (Move “jb”)
-> fu ck jbgs0 (Rotate “C” by 90 degrees)
-> fu ck j0b gs (Rearrange)
Finally, remove the “g” and the “s”, because they are the first characters of “grief” and “sadness”, which are the feelings you want to get rid of.
-> fuck j0b
See? You don’t have to be so sad. In the first place, LABOR IS SHIT!
It's not hard to get reading ability. It's fun to read foreign books and foreign article on the Internet. I'm interested in learning many languages.
Do you mean that such ability to reading foreign books is easy to get?
Yes, except newspaper.
I actually think that news in general is easier to understand than most fiction books, at least in my own experience.
The reason is that news is kind of meant to be simple. Everything is communicated in a very clear, direct, and matter-of-fact way.
The biggest hurdle to understanding news is that you have to learn a lot of vocabulary related to politics and such.
Books, on the other hand -- especially fiction books -- tend to be more abstract than news.
Authors like to inject their own writing styles and wordplay into their books.
They might contain subtle concepts which build on each other over the span of several pages or chapters.
This is kind of unrelated, but there are a lot of Americans who believe in the stupid myth that "not even Japanese people can read Japanese newspapers",
so I think it's commonplace to believe that news is the most difficult reading material out there.
I actually think that news in general is easier to understand than most fiction books, at least in my own experience.
The reason is that news is kind of meant to be simple. Everything is communicated in a very clear, direct, and matter-of-fact way.
The biggest hurdle to understanding news is that you have to learn a lot of vocabulary related to politics and such.
Books, on the other hand -- especially fiction books -- tend to be more abstract than news.
Authors like to inject their own writing styles and wordplay into their books.
They might contain subtle concepts which build on each other over the span of several pages or chapters.
This is kind of unrelated, but there are a lot of Americans who believe in the stupid myth that "not even Japanese people can read Japanese newspapers",
so I think it's commonplace to believe that news is the most difficult reading material out there.
>>278
sorry for double posting
Newspaper's grammar is not so difficult. I thought you need specific vocabulary as you said.
Basically people choose books you are interested in after you learned words and expressions. So I think it's not so hard to read books you are interested in.
I like travel abroad. So I memorized words which relates travel in the first place.
If you mean every kinds of books, it might be difficult. Novel, I used to read novel which has easy words. But if you like something special. It might be difficult.
BBC is relatively easy to read compared to the New York times that uses complex grammar and less common words.
Andi agree that fiction is the most difficult.
I started to learn English to read a non-fiction book, Embracing Defeat, this book is very insightful but very easy to read like newspapers.
I agree that it depends on the newspaper.
In my own case, for example, I think that FNN is an excellent resource for Japanese learners.
Not only do they use rather simple Japanese, but they include transcripts of basically everything the announcers are saying.
The only real difference is that the announcers use 丁寧語 whereas the written transcripts do not.
So for a Japanese student, FNN is a fucking godsend.
It's embarrassing to admit, but I don't really read English novels that much anymore.
I find it to be too boring since the internet is a thing now. It's been several years since I've read a single English book.
I think the Internet might have ruined my attention span for books, haha.
But I will look into Embracing Defeat since you mentioned it.
It seems just my image of English newspaper. I usually read Japanese newspaper.
>>282
You can read article on the internet for free. It's natural not to read books.
No way, you read Japanese newspapers?!!?
OMG! But the internet told me that even Japanese people couldn't read those!
lmao...
Do you buy foreign books at the imported book store? If so, you are rich.
>>284
Japanese people are not interested in politics so much compared to other countries.
I’m so angry because I’m super qualified for the job but I got denied?! Maybe I’m too qualified for the combini job. I have a master’s degree and some English skills and have an overseas sales.
Maybe the interviewer was jealous or something.
That may be the case.
Let’s look on the bright side: now you don’t have to work with someone mean enough to deny a suitable candidate out of jealousy. Yay!
lol congraturations
I just put a curse on you. Your family will be an accidnet soon. xx
You were too good for the place and they knew it
That's a good thing, really. Politics is dumb.
>>286
It sounds like you really were overqualified.
Here in the West, they would never hire someone with a Master's degree for a convenience store job,
because they assume that you'd just get bored and leave for something better as soon as possible.
Rather, they want people who don't have any qualifications,
so they'll have no choice but to stick with them.
How many ID do you have?
Where do you live? What state? I'm interested in foreign country.
i couldn't remember when and what my first breakthrough in my life is.
I live in Seattle, Washington, which is an okay city, but it's incredibly expensive to live here.
There's also a lot of homeless people everywhere, probably because everything is too expensive.
What about you?
yeah but how about when you broke through your mom's vagina as a baby lmao gottem
I live in Tokyo. Seattle is known for Starbucks coffee. It takes 9hours from Japan. I've never been to Seattle. But I've been to Hawaii and L.A.
There's definitely a lot of Starbucks in Seattle, yeah.
Only 9 hours? That's a lot shorter than I expected.
I've never been to Japan, but I'd like to visit someday.
I bet Tokyo is just like anime in real life!!!!!! Sugoiiii!!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wYQcU5VXde8
Yeah, Logan Paul is a massive piece of shit, and the only people who like him are 12-year-old kids with brain damage.
I also seem to recall another story where British tourists were caught licking the fish on display at a Japanese fish market.
They had to ban all white people from the fish market after that.
Many Westerners seem to have this entitled mentality where they treat foreign countries like a playground for them to get drunk and mess around in.
Probably because they grow up watching trash like Logan Paul vids.
In what kind of subject did you get your master’s degree?
Communication.
My degree hasn’t helped me get any jobs so far. So basically it’s a really expensive piece of paper now.
Make sure you take a really deep breath before getting into the examination room and believe in yourself.
It helped me a lot when I took it.
I hope you visit. (*ゝ・ω・*)ノ
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<Korean dot com 2012.08.11 09:52:55 article>
Crime about lies
Perjury: 1,544 South Korea, 9 Japan
False accusation: 2,171 South Korea, 10 Japan
Fraud: 70,000 South Korea, 8000 Japan
In Japan and Korea, there is a big difference between false proofs and false charges for the purpose of punishment and discipline for others.
Roughly more than four thousand times that of Japan considering the population ratio.
If you are sued by a Korean about your ancestors before you were born, you should first doubt the high possibility of false charges
i know how you feel but you can deal with it.
more than a decade ago, i screwed up at the interview test of the eiken pre-first grade.
i wept on my way home.
the kaomoji you are using is not kawaii.
it's so wide and the expression scares me.
What coffee shop is No.1 in seattle?
Milstead & Co.
I've heard a lot of good things from them while visiting the US a few years ago.
You could also see how Starbucks is there since Seattle is where their HQ is.
It doesn't mean you could not try new refreshments even though you are in a diet right? lol
Cheap and teasty.
I've never tried. Maybe it's good to visit when you want to save your money.
Recently I’ve been saving money by carrying onigiri and my bottle.
She debuted as Hideki Saijo's sister.
http://momi6.momi3.net/natu/src/1569449408218.jpg
Anyway coffee is expensive recently.
you can tell how much battery is still left by the battery icon shown on the screen.
but as for wrist watches you can't tell how much is left
so that you feel uncomfortable or even get upset when your wrist watch suddenly stops working.
Are you 右翼？
I think ほうじ茶 is also very nice.
yuck
it is my first comment.
the person, who uploaded the clip, gave me a "like".
i am happy (〃´・o・).
i heard that it is not good to pluck your hair and you should cut(trim) it instead.
plucking your hair may damage your skin and it sometimes causes suppuration.
i wonder if there is any best-before date set for green tea powder...
The shape of my nose holes are kinda unique. Like you can see my inside nose and nose hair. That’s why I always pluck them.
I’ve been seriously consodering getting npse hair removal laser thing.
You can get tons of comments if you post negative comments like “Fuck Whites!!! They are all racists” or something.
You’re welcome.
I don't think the teacher likes teaching at all. He doesn't smile, he doesn't even look at the students, he seems he doesn't give a damn about anything that's happening in his class.
no thank you.
i don't want any disagreement or hatred on funny websites.
It is much more safe when you see the online world in another language. you see how ungly it is in Japanese, like someone above said in this Japanese thread, f*** whites which was really disturbing.
We all know that, but what is the matter if it is a troll or not? ugly is ugly.
I just don't want anyone to use those words.
All cultures whose language isn't widespread is pretty insular. English, French, and German are all pretty PC in terms of racism and political speach.
German for a seperate reason. English and french are lingua francas of the world, so there's quite a bit of cultural exchange. German on the other hand is more because of the guilt of WWII still being felt by a majority of people to this date.
However, seeing how insular a particular culture is can be pretty eye opening too, so give and take I guess.
Allows someone to see what the zeitgeist of a culture can be. What someone from that culture may think subconciously and what their biases may be.
That's one of the reasons I want to learn Japanese.
And because I'm a filthy weeb who wants to watch anime without subs and to understand cultural references.
抹茶 is very nice in icecream.
What do you mean?
You should rename your name from 外人 to 害人.
There is only one person. But he has many ID.
October is coming soon. I can go out. 6month ago, I went to Moomin valley park. But it was a small park.
Btw I eat pumpkin cream pie in this season every year.
Learning foreign language is good. You can watch foreign youtube. And travel abroad will be more fun.
Whether you see offensive things or not on Youtube depends on the content and luck.
It does not depend on the language, as offensive English videos and posts do exist there.
2ch is the underground site of Japan, so it's par for the course that you see lots of foul posts here (or on any other nerdy sites).
If you go to English underground/nerdy sites, you will see lots of foul posts likewise. (Even on sites like reddit.)
Also the language of this thread is English and not Japanese, and what you wrote doesn't make sense.
Personally I find morons talking illogical nonsense like yours a lot more irritating than the erratic Korean troll of this thread.
Why did you have to put >>341 down in the last? At least he/she wasn’t being spiteful to you.
For example, I now and then run into an authentic expression when I read some sentences on YouTube but I can hardly find like that ones including mine.
As far as I know, having one clearer answer than someone on just one topic is not justification enough for a decent human to haul denigrating words at him/her.
That’s sort of a moronic social ineptitude, but it does not make sense if you profess to be a smarter individual.
You surely have another legitimate reason why you did that. I beg you to enlighten me with your wisdom, pretty please!
Macha is good on everything like cake, chocolate, icecream.
What I like the most are tropical flavor like coconut, mango, guava.
I heard that Japanese traditional food like miso and tofu are also super food. I will try them.
Don’t be fooled. Those “super food” are not that good. Just drink protein shake!
What kind of body shape is your goal?
By “models” did you mean fashion models, or fitness models?
I want flat belly. I've watched ＊what I eat in a day as a fashion model＊ I want to be slender but stay healthy.
I see. Those foods you call “super foods” do look colorful and motivating, but in my opinion they don’t seem far better than “normal” foods.
Taking appropriate amount of protein, fat, vitamins is more important than picking up “super foods.”
By the way, tofu is a good source of protein.
Yes. I'm chubby due to sweets. Maybe I don't need to get super food. What I have to is avoid sugar. I'll eat normal food.
>>365
I didn't know there are 2types of protein. I will check out details.
You may be aware of this, but don’t forget to build your muscles!
Those models look cute and slender, but they do intense workouts.
Just being skinny is not beautiful at all. Go to gym and work out hard and get a nice ass!!!!
They aren’t trying to look good to men in the first place.
They should get braces too instead of buying expensive bags...
How bout no, ya crazy japanese bastard.
Just changin topics, anyone here watched the Austin Powers trilogy? What did ya think about it?
Those are called “大根” legs.
Yes, I want to like AYA.
You can imitate phrases of native speakers in 4channel.
Hello pig.
They are freak out !
That's no good to complain about.
I’m gonna hit the book from now on.
Whaddya do anything guys?
it stars keanu reeves and two hot girls and the trailer looked so good a suspenseful thriller
that i felt like watching it.
but there're a lot of criticism comment and that baffled me.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TSaxn0a1Cbk
that they almost always dazzle me.
I like eating and I’m pretty good at cooking so maybe I’ll post cooking videos.
I envy the NEET whose parents are kind and rich
I sympathize with ya. I really do.
But being a NEET and slowly waisting away just feels like waisted potential.
If it ever gets to a breaking point, you could always turn into a 蒸発人 and make a new life for yourself.
The world is your oyster. But how you will reap this oyster is up to you.
Why don't you trying to be a rich not NEET lmao
If you so, you literally can do like NEET by your money and that's so cool tho :)
It isn't worth it. Trust me.
Here in Canada, a driver's car can be no older then 10 years, and income is NOT stable at all.
You'd have a better time becoming a FedEx guy or do pizza delivery.
Also, get a license.
I got mine at 16, and the freedom is amazing. Although I had 5 minor accidents in the first 2 years of driving.
Not great on insurance at all.
The young people are choosing not to have own car recently.
i can understand that the sharing economy has been rapidly developing in japan.
i think it's a bit late to do it but not too late.
i am also thinking about storing mineral water in plastic bottle.
Why are you thinking that? If big earthquake and tsumani happen in my area, I will give up my life and let me go.
>>400
I didn't know bad side of having drivers license.
>>403
I thought the same thing hahaha.
i want to survive by any means at least until my parents pass away.
that's the reason for that.
>>388
You can't even write in English can you.
>>405
That's good. I will buy some dry fruits and dry breads.
I’m gonna find out who is the culprit!!!!!
the size of cheese is small which is good to me.
You don't get to know about this with me.
i know a person who liked to drink sweet green tea.
I don’t like it. When I went to Hawaii, I got a canned green tea. It was sweetened! I was like wtfff?!
Sheesh.
Some guys just can't help with B.O. I shower almost every day and use Irish Spring deoderant.
If it's bothering you that much, try to ignore it. You'll become nose blind to it.
>>417
Usually the teas in the US and even in Canada are sweatened.
I actually like green tea lattes from time to time.
At least you can tell this foreigner fuck from everyone else.
There's 3 othere? Neat.
i'm talking about their products in terms of user friendliness.
if each piece is small, it's easier to eat.
my bmi value is about 21-22.
i think that it clearly shows i'm not debu.
She left. Because you wrote you don't like white people.
it is an advance notice for renewal of my driving license card.
it asks me to prepare 2 kinds of 4 digit password numbers to complete the procedure,
but i don't know why.
i can't remember me using such numbers when driving a car.
This article says it only takes 4 minutes to read. But actually it takes 20 minutes for me, and I referred to the dictionary for 60 times...
It's a 4 minute read for native speakers.
English test that measures English proficiency and is known only in Japan diffirent
from other English tests like TOEFL, TOEIC and ILETS.
And it took 10 minutes to read the article about the Babymetal and I looked up
words on online dictionary a few times. I think I understand the article 80% or so. That's
partly because of my lack of English proficiency and partly because I'm not
familiar with the Metal thingy. I have to admit I have lost the passion to improve my
English any more so I don't care if my English doesn't show any sign of improvement.
One thing is for sure. Whatever foreign language you start learning, the farther
you go, the harder you find it to recognize your improvement. And it's almost
impossible to reach the native speakers' levels as long as you aren't either grown up
in a bilingual family or raised in a foreign country where your target language is
spoken. C'est la vie.
It's been a while since I watched the 8th season, and I'm having bit of a trouble
remembering the plot, who is who, what role they played in the previous seasons.
You should watch this type of long TV shows without too much intervals if possible.
You're screwing with the wrong people!
Even a regular hamburger is also 110 yen.
They can't use the name '100 yen Mc' for their burgers anymore.
Luckily, a cup of coffee, small, is still 100 yen.
strangely, i feel reluctant to watch tv drama series.
i guess it is partly because no less than 6 or 7 or 8 series have already been produced.
I know how you feel. There are too many episodes to watch.
But once you get used to it, you get hooked and can't stop watching it.
That's how it was for me when I first watched '24' series.
I don't like the new member. No one can replace Yui chan!
Yes, no one can replace her.
But they're changing to Babymetal 2.0.
I was wearing a short pant and t-shirt and flip-flop and realised that I was the one who was wearing summer clothes... also the study room in the library was so cold... I couldn’t be there for 30 minutes....
I think I need to do 衣替え or something...
I was a slave of drama too.
I saw a dog in my dream. He was small fat fluffy white with brown dots.
i feel the amount she claimed is ridiculous, considering the reason for filing the lawsuit...
Paricularly so, when you are required to welcome some relatives or friends of a family member who you are not familiar with.
Even if you are an extreme introvert, you are expected to perform as it should be.
That is why I rarely visit my parents' house.
There is no such thing as "home" to me.
By the way, do you guys like noodles? What kind of noodles do you like?
This is my order.
A Vietnamese-style noodle dish called pho may be a close rival.
A distant third would be some Thai-style noodle dish or Italian pasta variety.
The other noodle dishes in other countries are effectively rubbish(Brt Eng).
it was crowded with shoppers.
paypay seemed to be very popular but to my eyes,
it just took more time for the staffs to do their jobs at the cashiers than before.
It was crowded with a lot of shoppers.
Although PayPay, a mobile payment service, is all the rage, I saw it take more time for cashiers at the store to handle payments via the app than otherwise.
Pasta is my favorite noodle, hands down.
You don’t know the potential somen has... Somen is super noodles. Somen can be Japanese dish and somen can be western.
Somen are versatile super food.
But I like this kind of somen too.
https://i.imgur.com/mTdT0dV.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZPKGYVF.jpg
I think it's just the hiyashi shabushabu-like stuff that is tasty and not much to do with the somen in the bowl.
Somen in my opinion has the worst texture among noodles, and I don't think anything you put on it would change my opinion on that.
I don't like the idea of slurping the cold oily somen. Are you sure that's not ramen?
(｀・ω・´)
https://i.imgur.com/D19UKXA.jpg
your everyday life is full of cashless payment services.
you can properly use all of them on a case by case basis?
i once thought about going to the theater but i gave it a second thought.
it is because joker, he is a main heel of "batman" series
and i can't fully enjoy or understand the content of the film without seeing "batman" first.
It is maybe because those Japanese women love western culture or Japanese men are inward-looking.
Even so, the female proportion is insanely high.
At the professional level, though, the most capable of using English are men, Hahaha
And the interfaces of some apps were changed greatly so that
i had a difficulty in using them than before.
i prefer the previous interfaces.
i have to clip them very often and it bothers me.
i guess clipped nails might bounce with snapped sounds and hit people sitting around.
Are you talking about me?
Isn't it obvious from the flow of the posts that I was talking about the thing in >>474? (which I still don't know if it's actually somen)
i felt afraid of the amount of sugar and caffeine i take everyday.
i don't know how long i can continue with this but i will try my best.
(*´・ω・)ﾉ
I'm sorry to disturb you.
Why don’t we just give up our lives and let it be?
I want to die of some kind of stroke or something. It is a probably easy death if I die instantly, of course.
the tooth should've been taken care of and cured about 10 yrs ago.
i can't understand why it began to torture me all over again.
but they would come to japan again in future like ikea if they successfully revive.
The truth is, though, that Japanese completely lacks any command of the language in every aspect.
They can not read English well, let alone speak or write.
The fundamental problem here lies in the inadequacy of the amount of English these poor Japanese have soaked up so far in their life.
it's fun.
another horribly strong typhoon no.19 is closing in on chiba.
Eh, we just don't have any pickled plumbs in local supermarkets.
Would deffinately want to try them if I had the chance!
she said i appear to be suitable for playing a role of dad.
she also recommended パパ活 then but i didn't ask her what the パパ活 is.
he said there's nothing wrong with my teeth after he took the x-ray.
then what causes this pain......
You can make Umeboshi if you have plums. My grandma would make it for us.
Gaijins never can appeciate the deliciousness of umeboshi.
That's pretty assumptious.
I'd bet 10k I'd actually like it.
I like the shiso one. I’m absolutely against the honey umeboshi. That’s NOT umeboshi.
Why on earth you don’t accept it?
It was fad but still now some love it like me.😩
多分ノルウェイの森とかは年代別に流行った訳を並べると
公式が誤訳
→パクリ系が意味不明な部分をアレコレ（誤訳した日本語準拠で）解釈
→解釈やりすぎてもはや全文想像みたいな人達が出現し始める
→「森じゃなくて木材」って言われて正気に戻る
みたいな流れが見えてくると思う
246 名盤さん 2019/10/04
簡単に言うと一部の人が勘違いをしている程度のレベルではなくて、
80年代とか90年代あたりに洋楽業界全体が「痛い妄想系厨二病」みたいな状態だった時期があるわけよ
142の流れの2段目とか3段目の、分からない部分に妄想をマシマシで盛り付けた物を「意訳」と呼んじゃってたわけ
英語学習や翻訳業界の常識ならそんなもの訳とは呼ばないのに、洋楽業界だけカン違いして暴走していた
流石に最近は洗脳が解けてる人が多いんだけど、まだ「訳に想像やオリジナル要素を入れてもいい」と思ってる人もいるんだよ
My fucking neighbour just came to my home and the BBA complained about a small shovel in my garden and she demands that I should put it away because the typhoon is approaching.
She claims that it’s very dangeous because it’ll fly in the air and hit someone or cause damages to the neighbours’ houses.
I was like seriously? YOU SHOULD GET INTO A NURSING CARE FACILITY RIGHT NOW!!!!!!
This is why this annoying old BBA is hated by all neighbours. Fuck bitch.
You mean 業務スーパー?
yes
but when I was in developing countries,
people were scared of going outside in a tempestuous storm.
You might get injured or even get killed by flying tin roofs.
https://imgur.com/r/The_Mueller/NnapQ49
"I am a pen."
See? Perfect English.
Wow, native speaker's English is different with us.
I have an appleeeeee.
Uuuughhhh
Is your name Hagibis?
but basically taking pictures shouldn't be allowed there for a security purpose.
or the store may ask politely shoppers to refrain from doing it.
now i feel i should be more aware of it and act in an appropriate way.
Are you instagramer?
I'm being OCD right now, but "typoon" is actually written as "typhoon."
The ph make an 'f' sound. As it was originally written I thought "ty-poon".
https://mobile.twitter.com/itsthefightzone/status/1181619942946492416
(deleted an unsolicited ad)
no but i am interested in instagram.
Go to DAISO, the 100-yen shop, they encourage you to take pictures and share them on the internet.
It's no fun being an involuntary hikikomori.
Dial 050-3810-2787 . It's JNTO (Japan National Tourism Organization) available for 24 hours in English, Chinese and Korean languages, to ask for the government support.
Recommended Apps: Safety Tips Disaster Preparedness Tokyo App
Twitter:@JapanSafeTravel (JSTO)
Stay informed!
i hope we will not experience sudden cut of water supply or unexpected blackout.
really!?
Maybe I should go check the nearest river and sea because I am a kind of guy who is excited about seeing the raging sea during the typhoon!
My room is on the ground floor.
To evacuate or not to evacuate....
I guess I'll sleep on it. haha
Because of flooding?
and I know how fragile the river dike of the Sumida river is,
it is really nothing at all
until the shit really hits the fan. la la la~~♪
DAISO openly approves photographs inside store and why?
https://www.huffingtonpost.jp/2017/12/07/daiso_a_23299752/
How come?
a lot of emails have been sent to my mobile phone continuously
which makes me awake and be on a high alert.
especially when the writer is simply too lazy to look up words.
But I’m hoping you guys are safe!!!!!
even though he or she lives in the kanto region.
before i found them at around 5:30am this morning.
thank you all the delivery staffs.
How is English rigid? It has a very large vocabulary, you can verb nouns and
noun verbs, play with word order, etc.
In fact, it's way easier to answer questions on English than those on my mother tongue.
This may sound weird, given most people blindly assume they are an expert of their first language.
The truth is, however, that you can relatively easily make your mark with your acquired foreign language, while struggling to do the same on your native language.
In my case, I am totally incapable of giving any effective advice on Japanese grammatical questions, eventually forced to raise the white flag.
As it turned out, Japanese native speakers, with no special training, have no arsenal of knowledge regarding grammar.
So what is the moral of this tale?
You should be better off learning English from a fellow Japanese teacher, rather than a native speaker.
https://i.imgur.com/VFRXEyU.jpg
Which guy is your favorite?
My fave is 姫野. He is so cute, bulky and young <3
He looks like "Kurohige Kiki Ippatsu."
He’s a happyly married man and has a daughter so I give up on him.
I like Kitade Katsuya too. So cute <3
Yas. I agree.
That's one ugly picture of retarded dogs.
Abe is like a 60 year old retard who is willingly obeying crooked adults. Fucking pathetic dog.
So I must warn America. It has come to the conclusion that the Ugly Dog Abe is a full-fledged deceiver.
Most people don't know how their native language really works,
unless they explicitly study it or are required to teach it to others.
(Trying to figure out when "a" or "the" are used in English is a
surprisingly difficult exercise for native English speakers; most
people haven't thought of the notion of 'countability' or specificity.)
Where having a naive speaker teach is really helpful is them being
able to tell you if your sentences are wrong or awkwardly constructed;
they might not be able to tell you *why*, but they can definitely
tell there's a problem.
Same thing goes for native Japanese speakers teaching Japanese!
Few of them had heard of 連濁 or pitch tone.
You can understand if you know non rigid playful language. English contains no case endings, strong verbs, pragmatic word order, good morphology and many other features.
You should say "borrow" rather than "steal" when you mean words coming from other languages.
In this sense, Japanese is heavily indebted to English.
And the "stolen words" are what makes English fun to study. (etymology)
I couldn’t agree more.
Native speakers are most effective when pointing to whether a sentence is wrong or not.
和製漢語 are ours. We made them and sent them back to china. We ignored our own language and improved chinese so that chinese language can invade our 大和言葉.
So what? Why would the fact that there are Japanese-made kango mean "we didn't steal many words from China"?
Himero's dick is huge.
where is mr. goromaru?
he must be a center of attention.
HOW DO YOU KNOW?!?!?!!
I have problems arranging thoughts according to Japanese grammar.
Also the construction of essays is completely opposite. In English we make clear whether we agree or disagree about a subject but we are unable to know authors's view until the very last of the essays in Japanese.
only a few kinds of simple exercises like push ups or curl ups may have damaged it.
I'm building my body to show it off someday.
you must have big biceps.
i will check training belts on amazon or visit fitness section at a local supermarket.
That’s because I have no life.
I’m excited.
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I'm a big fan of Big Mac.
I like the South African accent. Sexy
The south african accent is because of Afrikaans, a modified version of Dutch. Should listen to some Afrikaans media if you like the accent.
I'm interested in visiting Cape town.
That’s for sure.